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What Do You Call Two Dead Nazis?

A good start.

So, someone killed two Israeli diplomats in D.C., and everyone is crying crocodile tears and screaming about anti-semitism. (One of them was a Christian fundamentalist, as an aside.)

These two diplomats are agents of a genocidal state. Their job is to keep the weapons and ammunition flowing to Israel so that Israel can kill more Palestinians, wipe out the last remaining hospital, torture Palestinians, rape Palestinians (including, it appears, with dogs), deliberately snipe children in the head, cause a huge famine, and turn every building in Gaza into dust.

And I’ve left a number of sickening crimes out.

So, am I sad they are dead? No. Am I going to pretend I give a shit when someone who supports genocide winds up dead? No. Every single pious well-wishing for Biden is the equivalent of wishing Petain, the leader of Vichy France, who helped the Holocaust along, a good life.

All of these people are knowingly involved in genocide. They have had many opportunities to stop supporting mass murder, and they have refused every single one of them.

They are all, forgive me for using the word, evil. The bad guys. Torture. Rape. Mass murder. Deliberate killing of children.

It is my dream that every single one of them will eventually hang from the neck for their crimes. No exceptions. I think it would be wise to add the corporate leadership of companies like Palantir and Microsoft, both of which are helping the genocide along.

This is a moral stance, but it is also a pragmatic stance. People who have gotten away with genocide once are not the sort of people anyone wise wants in their society, or in a position of power anywhere. Once could easily become twice.

You don’t even have to give a damn about Palestinians. You just have to have good judgment, and a concern for your own neck and the lives, rectums, and limbs of people you care about.

From the neck. Unil dead. For everyone who knowingly aided or committed genocide.

(Addendum): If this is someone lashing out in rage at any Jew and just happening to kill two Israeli diplomats I can only say, “Thank God he killed evil people,” and note that the reason that people are conflating “Jewish” with “Zionist,” as I have written repeatedly, is that Israel constantly says they’re the same thing, and then goes on to mass murder children, rape, torture, and so on. Some people are going to believe them, “Oh, Israel is Jewish, not Zionist. The Israelis say they’re the same thing, and so do many non-Israeli Jews. I guess they know what they’re talking about.” Nobody and nothing causes more anti-semitism in the world than Israel itself. For them to cry crocodile tears about anti-Jewish racism after plastering themselves with the Torah then covering themselves in the blood of children is nauseating.

And, for a little leavening of the anger and rage, a classic:

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18 Comments

  1. Huntly

    I don’t think that there is any evidence that the killer knew they were embassy employees, they just happened to be two people coming out of a jewish museum. So all signs point to antisemitism in this case. Happy to be proven wrong.

  2. Ian Welsh

    We’ll see. If he just wanted to kill Jews his motivation was bad, but just like someone who wanted to kill two Germans in 1942 and wound up killing two Nazis, he still killed evil people.

    Of course, 97% of Israelis or so think the level of force in Gaza is appropriate, so unlike Germany in 1942, your odds of finding a good Israeli are might slim indeed. (And yes, I know this happened in the US.)

  3. AbsoluteCandor

    Wow. Just…wow.

  4. JR

    Ian, I’m curious where you found information on what their jobs entailed (or what they did outside of their jobs), of the two murdered people who worked at the Israeli Embassy. Can you post something?

  5. Mark Level

    This happened soon after Piers Fucking Morgan turned on Israel because the brown people genocide & baby and child genocide got too evil for even him, and told Mehdi Hasan “I’ve come around to your view” on the issue. And just after the ultra-Zionist, connected UK government put sanctions on Israeli settlers, and Canada and France also threatened to do so.

    This act looks like a classic MK-Ultra diversion– think Lee Harvey Oswald, the convicted killers of Malcolm X (who were released after decades), etc. The wacked-out looking guy shoots 2 people dead (I’m not saying he didn’t do it, but like Oswald he’s a patsy, an op) then hangs around waiting to be arrested. There is a Kaffiyeh on the ground near him, and when the cops are grabbing him some friendly “bystander” calmly, thoughtfully picks it up and hands it to the officers so the script will have proper costuming, does an interview just after . . . Then somebody sends the dude’s “Manifesto” to the Journalist Ken Klippenstein (who is actually a very good journalist, interesting choice.)

    Due Dissidence covered this very well, on Rumble, not on YouTube where they would’ve been banned for life. Link is here, https://rumble.com/duedissidence/live, it leads to all their rumble work but it’s the 3 hour + episode released yesterday, 5/22, at about 3 hours and 17 minutes in– they use the Guardian’s coverage, and comment.

    Russell Dobular thinks this attempt to overturn the Narrative Reality will be a blip. But look how openly the racism works. They are a “young, attractive couple”, & Pam Bondi pledges that “we will protect all our citizens, ESPECIALLY the Jewish ones”.

    Look how the US State Propaganda apparatus pretended for months that the indiscriminate murder of tens of thousands of non-Hamas Palestinians, and when white World Central Kitchen workers were killed (the first time of 2) suddenly they went crazy and started to question Israel.

    Israel has been about promoting anti-Semitism and murderous Islamophobia from its inception. It is a poisoned ethno-nationalist toxin. The Reich never developed a Victim narrative that could be effectively utilized by supporters; the Zionist entity has a higher level of Hasbara sophistication, though many of its leaders spew hatred at a level that Hitler or the other leadership would have recognized and admired. The victims were insane Christian Fundamentalists who support Israel so it will be annihilated to bring Jaybus back, see Revelation. The man served in the IDF so obviously it’s highly likely he murdered or tortured many civilians, including the elderly, women and children.

    Oh and what happens to “the Jews” who don’t convert in Revelation? Isn’t Revelation an extremely anti-Semitic document? This whole story reminds me a bit of a couple months back in Florida, when a crazed Zionist decided that 2 Israeli tourists looked like Palestinians, pursued their car and shot and wounded both. They were rabid Zionists and while claiming the attack was Anti-Semitic in a Tweet (fair enough, the Palestinians are far more Semitic than most Ashkenazi Jews), they ended the Tweet with “Death to Arabs!” This level of pure Hate and Othering is just off the charts. There is blowback, at some point.

  6. Imagine the effects on peoples mental well being, desire to socialize, and health from living in a society that mourns the death of mass murderers. Oh wait….

    Better turn the TV back on and scroll through some memes….

  7. Jan Wiklund

    When I heard the news about the planes that went into the World Trade Center my belly said “that got the bastards”. But less than a second after my brain said “Nothing good will come out of this”. My brain was right. Several millions have been killed in the socalled war against terrorism.

    I don’t give a damn about just punishment. Whatever can get the Israeli government a shred of sympathy is bad. The more they can masquerade as victims, the more time will it take until European and American governments stop helping them. To make the European and American governments stop helping them is the no. 1 task now.

    So no! Nothing good will come out of these murders.

  8. Ian Welsh

    Here’s what Yaron Lishansky did.

    https://x.com/yaron_li/status/1882095540017787026

    He also served in the IDF and lied about aid trucks:

    https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1925514348757238256

    His fiance did not have a social media presence. But she was an Israeli diplomat. You can’t be an Israeli diplomat and not be more than OK with genocide.

  9. Feral Finster

    1, Elias Rodriguez’ manifesto is well-written, coherent and does not even use the word “Jew” once.

    https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/the-israel-embassy-shooter-manifesto

    2. Zionists are doubtless rejoicing at having been handed a pretext for a crackdown. I am not now, nor have I ever been a 9/11 Truther, but I note that 9/11 proved hella convenient.

    Back in the 1990s, when he was a lowly Senator, Biden sponsored a bill that later became the basis for the so-called “Patriot Act”. It sank like a stone.

    On 9/12, Americans could not give up their civil liberties quickly enough. And of course, the neocons were right there, laws in hand, ready to go, wars ready to start, no time to ask questions….

  10. mago

    Mark Level among other realists gets it right, although mainstream hysteria runs wild per usual. The media needs chemotherapy in deadly doses.

    Bobby D got it right back in his prime when he sang you don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

    And as regards toxicity, baby you ain’t seen nothing yet.
    Some geese are cooking as we speak.

  11. shagggz

    Mark Level – “There is blowback, at some point.” – I wouldn’t call it blowback when Jewish humans die as a result of Zionazi propaganda. It has always been an intended requirement for the continuation of this abusive, predatory racket. But too many have now caught on to how this whole thing works, and there is no putting the cat back into the bag. Isnotreal will not exist within a decade, and I look forward to a hearty Mazel Tov cheer with y’all celebrating this.

    Feral Finster, on what grounds do you reject 9/11 Trutherdom?

  12. Z

    The Jewish Supremacist mind in its self-serving action: it is unforgivably reckless to point out the inhumanity, the evilness, of Israel murdering innocent Palestinian children by the tens … hundreds? … of thousands because of the mere possibility that any Jewish person may have to pay any price for it.

    And now that two adult Zionists who supported the murder of Palestinian children have paid the ultimate price, we’re supposed to have more empathy for them … place a greater importance on their lives … than all the innocent children they supported murdering.

    So, in the Jewish Supremacists’ self-serving mind, the Palestinian children are responsible for the sins of their parents they have no power over and must pay the ultimate price for their parents’ sins … administered to them by adult Zionists … while adult Zionists shouldn’t even be held responsible for supporting the industrial scale murder, often slaughter, of innocent children.

    And, of course, if it was the other way around, we’d be hearing non-stop from our rulers’ media about the savagery, the butchery, of the Palestinians. We know this because even when it didn’t happen … such as the unsubstantiated claim that Hamas beheaded 40 Israeli babies (How hard would that have been to substantiate? Why weren’t any photos of this alleged butchery ever shown the public?) … we heard it uncritically repeated by our rulers’ media and their obedient, bribed and blackmailed politicians such as the Lead Stiff of Weekend at Biden’s.

    Z

  13. Soredemos

    Lone acts of murder isn’t praxis.

    Whether these two individuals deserved to die or not is largely irrelevant.

    What did killing them accomplish? Will it slow down the genocide? No.

    Will it bolster the image and repute of anti-Zionists or the left? No; now they’ll be even more disreputable and portrayed as loner killer weirdos.

    There can be a place for acts of violence in achieving radical change, but it has to be widespread and organized, like Maoists mass killing landlords and effectively wiping out their entire class.

    This act may be morally cathartic, but it hasn’t accomplished anything. It just allows already committed true believers to punch the air and feel a brief bit of satisfaction that someone struck back. Meanwhile, back to your regularly scheduled genocide programming.

  14. different clue

    @Feral Finster,
    ” On 9/12, Americans could not give up their civil liberties quickly enough.” Really?
    Here’s something which happened quite a few days after 9/11 and which is never overtly denied but is always muffled, suppressed, and Cone-Of-Silenced. And that was the Anthrax Attacks. Here is a link about it.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks
    It was those anthrax attacks, waged with American-sourced high-quality lab-made anthrax over several days, which brought the House and Senate to the point of voting for the premade-for-the-occasion police state laws.

    About 9/11 Truthers, Jeff Wells at Rigorous Intuition considered them to be different than actual seekers of 9/11 Truth and Fact. He considered them to be a diversionary muddy-the-waters Intelligence Psy-Op Information Operation. He wrote a couple of posts about that. As to the official theory of 9/11, he wrote a post about that too, called: The Coincidence Theorist’s Guide To 9/11. Here is the link.
    https://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/08/coincidence-theorists-guide-to-911.html

  15. shagggz

    different clue, the cute term “coincidence theorist” gets at the point I was making in questioning why one would distance themselves from a term that suggests there is a truth to 9/11 that merits further questioning. Much like how the term “conspiracy theory” was originally seeded by intelligence agencies to throw the public off the scent that stank to high heaven of said agencies’ involvement in the JFK splattering, this is what’s called a shitcoating operation. Nothing to see here, be an obedient normie, not some stinky weirdo who would have the effrontery to question the noble intentions of his betters.

    Soredemos, maybe there is value in this “propaganda of the deed” in drawing attention to what an Israeli diplomat even is, as Ian suggests.

  16. Jan Wiklund

    There is only one way of justifying political violence: will it help the cause or not.

    There is no “moral justification” except that. If it makes you stronger, it’s ok. If it makes your enemy stronger, it’s not.

    Any idea that violence against individuals will make the enemy party back off is bunkum. Politics is about collectives, big collectives. No Israeli whatever will stop murdering in Gaza because one or another is killed otherwhere.

    So the only argument is: how will this murders affect the public in Europe and America. My guess is that it will strengthen the Israeli cause, and slow down European (and American) reevaluation of the genocide support.

  17. different clue

    @shagggz,

    Are you referring to “9/11 Truthers” as the shitwashing operation? Or the “Coincidence theorists”? I can’t exactly tell.

    Jeff Wells considered that actual seekers-after-truth-and-facts to be the actual “questioners of their betters”. He considered the 9/11 Truthers to be a diversionary Intelligence Psy-Op disinformation, diversion and discreditation Operation. And he made a very good case for that view.

  18. shagggz

    different clue, we are in agreement with Jeff Wells. “9/11 Truther” is the shitwashing operation, “Coincidence theorist” is a sort of reverse-shitwashing, washing the washers. Oh man, I don’t know why I find shitwashing to be so much funnier a term than shitcoating. Thank you for introducing me to it, and the chuckle.

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